From: Lois Dow [mailto:loikful@hotmail.com] Sent: September-22-10 2:46 PM To: Wesley Wong Subject: RE: ἄλλος -η -ο
Wes,
Yes, ἄλλος is a word that uses only o (ἄλλο) in the neuter singular Nom and Acc. There is a group of words that do this, most are pronouns. I didn't have time to mention it the other day, good for you for catching it. Lois
________________________________________ From: ww@weswong.com To: loikful@hotmail.com Subject: ἄλλος -η -ο Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:15:03 -0400 Hi Lois, I see that the adjective for “other, another (of a similar kind)” is ἄλλος -η -ο. (section 2.2.2, p18). I would have thought it would be ἄλλος -η -ον Instead, like the other neuter endings for the 1st and 2nd declension adjectives. (section 2.3.5, p23). Oh well. C’est la vie. ἀλλά can you explain why the neuter for is -ο and not -ον? Thank you. ww
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From: Lois Dow [mailto:loikful@hotmail.com] Sent: September-22-10 3:09 PM To: Howard Nanes Subject: RE: ἄλλος -η -ο and word gender
Howard, I'm glad you asked. If the word is a noun, it can only have one gender (except a few male/female words like god/goddess). Each noun is given in the vocabulary with three items: its Nominative singular form, its genitive ending, and its article (word "the"). If the noun is masculine, that article will be o9 (ho) If the noun is feminine, the article will be h9(he) If the noun is neuter, the article will be to/(to)
We will learn more about articles in class tomorrow.
For adjectives, determining the gender is different. Adjectives can have any of the three genders, depending on the noun they are describing (they conform to the noun's gender). If the adjective has a second declension masculine ending, it is masculine. If it has a second declension neuter ending, it is neuter. If it has a first declension ending, it is feminine. Lois
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Hi All I notice from the Quiz that not everybody is doing parsing yet the way our book wants.
If the word is an adjective, the only adjectives we know so far are parsed as 1/2ADJ- followed by the Gender, Case and Number, e.g. FAP If the word is a noun, the only nouns we know so far are parsed as 2NON- followed by Gender, Case and Number
From: Lois Dow [mailto:loikful@hotmail.com]
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To: Wesley Wong
Subject: RE: ἄλλος -η -ο
Wes,
Yes, ἄλλος is a word that uses only o (ἄλλο) in the neuter singular Nom and Acc. There is a group of words that do this, most are pronouns. I didn't have time to mention it the other day, good for you for catching it.
Lois
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From: ww@weswong.com
To: loikful@hotmail.com
Subject: ἄλλος -η -ο
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:15:03 -0400
Hi Lois,
I see that the adjective for “other, another (of a similar kind)” is ἄλλος -η -ο. (section 2.2.2, p18).
I would have thought it would be ἄλλος -η -ον Instead, like the other neuter endings for the 1st and 2nd declension adjectives. (section 2.3.5, p23).
Oh well. C’est la vie. ἀλλά can you explain why the neuter for is -ο and not -ον? Thank you.
ww
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Sent: September-22-10 3:09 PM
To: Howard Nanes
Subject: RE: ἄλλος -η -ο and word gender
Howard,
I'm glad you asked.
If the word is a noun, it can only have one gender (except a few male/female words like god/goddess).
Each noun is given in the vocabulary with three items: its Nominative singular form, its genitive ending, and its article (word "the").
If the noun is masculine, that article will be o9 (ho)
If the noun is feminine, the article will be h9(he)
If the noun is neuter, the article will be to/(to)
We will learn more about articles in class tomorrow.
For adjectives, determining the gender is different. Adjectives can have any of the three genders, depending on the noun they are describing (they conform to the noun's gender). If the adjective has a second declension masculine ending, it is masculine. If it has a second declension neuter ending, it is neuter. If it has a first declension ending, it is feminine.
Lois
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:53:19 -0400
Subject: Re: ἄλλος -η -ο
From: howard.nanes@gmail.com
To: loikful@hotmail.com
Hi Lois,
I also had a quick question. I may have missed it, but how do you identify the gender of a word?
Thanks,
Howard
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ReplyDeleteI notice from the Quiz that not everybody is doing parsing yet the way our book wants.
If the word is an adjective, the only adjectives we know so far are parsed as 1/2ADJ- followed by the Gender, Case and Number, e.g. FAP
If the word is a noun, the only nouns we know so far are parsed as 2NON- followed by Gender, Case and Number
Try it, you'll like it.
Lois
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